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00:00 let's chase in three two one go
00:14 boom Gregg we're back it's been a long
00:17 hiatus sorry we heard that he's busy
00:20 right how you doing I'm hanging in there
00:23 how about you I'm fantastic yeah things
00:25 are going really well you know it feels
00:29 like it feels like we just had like a
00:30 little holiday and getting back to
00:32 business yep
00:34 getting getting back to business that's
00:36 right you know is I launched the the new
00:38 website have you seen it oh yeah
00:41 Congrats about that totally forgotten
00:43 heck Congrats yeah good job I know he'd
00:45 been working a very hard and a long time
00:48 on that yeah you know so we launched it
00:50 well I said we're recording this on
00:53 Wednesday the 24th I launched it last
00:54 Friday and it was kind of crazy as
00:58 Monday morning comes right and then you
01:00 know I've been I've been heads down like
01:02 that's the only thing I've been focused
01:04 on for like 12 months you know and now
01:07 that it's launched it was like this was
01:09 now what like it's like what do I do now
01:16 like obviously there's tons of other
01:19 stuff I need to keep doing but it was
01:21 just the end of what I've been
01:23 completely just you know you know
01:25 headlined for for complete tunnel vision
01:29 for for 12 months is is released and now
01:33 it's like it was just this weird feeling
01:35 most of all Monday of I can't like it
01:39 like I gotta learn how to get out of the
01:41 tunnel vision mode and maybe start
01:42 thinking about other things you know it
01:45 was a pretty weird it's better than the
01:47 alternative yeah exactly yeah Obul shirt
01:50 looks a little shirt but the the the
01:54 feedbacks been overwhelmingly positive
01:56 you know there was a few you know
01:58 obviously like broken links a couple
01:59 people found and some broken demos and
02:01 and most of those have been all fixed by
02:04 now but yeah everyone seems to be
02:06 enjoying the site so I'm excited to you
02:09 know the key now is maintaining it like
02:11 making sure that you know new designs
02:13 are submitted
02:13 from people and I already have a couple
02:15 people willing to you know right Bhargav
02:17 blog articles for it and and you know
02:20 guest blog and stuff like that so yeah I
02:23 just need to get into that mode of
02:25 maintaining it and make sure that it
02:27 doesn't get stale right right cool
02:31 so we haven't rehearsed this obviously
02:34 I've been discussed this I'm gonna drop
02:35 this on you but lessons learned from the
02:39 launch what do you got um you know a lot
02:42 of it was you know so John Hawkins um
02:46 you know I worked with John a lot and
02:48 he's in England and by the end I think
02:52 we finally nailed like a decent work
02:54 flow in terms of working with someone on
02:56 the other side of the world on a project
02:57 um that was definitely a learning
02:59 process you know like um because that
03:02 the time zone difference is who it was
03:04 kind of tough you know and you know he
03:07 made some sacrifices to to you know stay
03:09 up late sometimes and you know I stayed
03:11 up early sometimes and stuff like that
03:13 so it was tough because the the
03:16 eight-hour time zone change is like when
03:18 he's in family mode I'm in work mode
03:20 right so it was it was hard to really
03:22 work at the same time sometimes you know
03:25 and so that was definitely a learning
03:27 process um not much I could really
03:30 convey here in terms of what I learned
03:32 it was just it was just an experience
03:35 right and you know we by the end we'd I
03:38 did use Trello as a way of us you know
03:42 having some sort of task management back
03:44 and forth with each other and that
03:46 seemed to work out pretty well I just
03:48 used their free account and that worked
03:50 that worked pretty well we we only did
03:53 that for like the last month and a half
03:54 or two months and I wish I started a lot
03:57 earlier because it really helped cuz you
04:00 know here's knew what I was kind of
04:01 working on and then I kind of knew what
04:02 he was working on and so yeah I think
04:07 that was my biggest takeaway interesting
04:09 as someone who uses version control and
04:12 stuff I would have expected to you you
04:14 to use like github projects or something
04:16 like that yes
04:17 I really wanted to but um John it really
04:21 isn't
04:21 oh you mean like you have projects Oh
04:23 like like I was thinking like version
04:25 control okay yeah
04:27 you know I didn't even think about
04:29 github projects I just um Trello had I
04:32 had a Mac app now so I was like you know
04:34 um I think when a service has a Mac app
04:37 it just feels better to me and into John
04:39 as well and we had both dabbled with
04:41 Trello before so it was familiar to both
04:44 of us so sure that that it worked on
04:48 projects I totally forgot about that one
04:50 I played with it but honestly it's kind
04:55 of like I'm trying to get into to using
04:57 things more because they have the Mac
05:00 and I have the iOS apps yep mmm he liked
05:04 it our projects would be if I had a
05:05 small team yeah and there's kind of just
05:09 working through like active constant
05:13 development where you're constantly like
05:15 taking a task and I that two-week cost
05:17 sprint yeah looking through it like that
05:20 I think it would be better but as ants
05:24 we don't have unnecessarily strict rigid
05:28 development cycles so it's kind of hard
05:30 to use these limits in these schools you
05:31 know I would have loved to have used get
05:34 in terms of so the one issue was
05:35 actually like sharing files back and
05:38 forth right I mean making sure that you
05:40 know um like actually for instance on
05:43 launch day I set up a bunch of pretty
05:46 URLs so like all the pretty URLs so um
05:48 on the site and so I set up all the URLs
05:51 and htaccess files and and I you know
05:54 save the project file ship the ship the
05:56 new updated version to John was that he
05:59 had it and then when he went to go make
06:04 some changes to fix some other issues
06:07 like broken links he he didn't update to
06:10 the the version that I did with the
06:12 pretty URLs and republish an old version
06:15 on top of it that had fixes so at that
06:17 point it was kind of like everything was
06:18 in an influx now like the pretty URLs
06:21 broke I mean the site still worked that
06:22 but the URLs weren't pretty anymore and
06:24 um you know it was like oh no cuz then I
06:28 had to then did get the the pre-roll
06:29 version and try to integrate all of his
06:31 changes and so I was kind of hectic I
06:33 liked like sharing the files I would
06:36 have loved to have used version control
06:38 right um but
06:40 that is just I think that would break
06:43 his brain and no offense to John it's
06:46 just a you know that sort of thing um is
06:47 it isn't his thing you know tough for
06:51 him right um it's just dinner it's just
06:53 not not not for him so yeah that that
06:58 was tough and to be honest we never came
07:00 up with a great workflow for fur for
07:03 really sharing project files across you
07:06 know I probably could have created like
07:07 a Dropbox share or you know we love we
07:10 were we both would have loved if iCloud
07:12 had to be the ability to share a folder
07:14 with somebody else we probably would
07:16 have been all over that but both of us
07:18 kind of stopped using Dropbox and yeah
07:22 so that was tough yeah I'm trying to get
07:25 on Dropbox - I keep now that they do
07:27 push notifications on my desktop every
07:29 time and they asked me has a ministry
07:30 with password I'm like mmhmm yeah yeah
07:35 thanks but no thanks yeah yeah
07:37 definitely
07:38 yeah I don't remember the whole thing
07:40 about Dropbox like it imitating mean Mac
07:43 OS yep okay they just wrote like that
07:46 our listeners Dropbox had I don't know
07:49 if they still do imitated replicated the
07:53 OS 10 login screen and they asked you
07:56 for your password but it wasn't a secure
07:58 OS 10 login prompt so they were taking
08:01 her password and doing I don't know I'm
08:03 guessing I think they granted higher
08:05 level e then they needed and I don't
08:09 really know the details on what they get
08:11 they did with your password there but it
08:12 wasn't it wasn't a nice thing to do I
08:14 guess
08:15 the right thing to do in my mind so yeah
08:21 so I guess anything else what else
08:25 you've been doing anyways lunch when
08:30 lunch when's lunch one well otherwise
08:31 yeah yeah lunch went really well um it
08:35 you know I also have a new stack coming
08:37 out as well a wallpaper it's on the site
08:39 already but yeah so it's on the site but
08:44 I haven't like done all the official
08:45 announcements I have a couple videos I'm
08:47 going to be recording tomorrow and then
08:50 launching it in a couple days so that's
08:52 a fun new stack and I've
08:54 I have a few other stacks that are kind
08:56 of I've lined up they're all done I just
08:57 need to start banging them out so after
08:59 that I have a free stack called stack
09:01 group it's kind of a fun little way of
09:03 grouping stacks in edit mode that has
09:06 zero weight on the the preview and
09:08 publish side so that's the interesting
09:12 stack in it's a way of like kind of
09:14 adding like programming like adding
09:16 comments it allows you to add comments
09:18 to edit mode and you can kind of end but
09:21 it only shows an edit mode right so it's
09:24 kind of a nice little stack so if you
09:25 want to you know remind yourself about
09:26 why you did a particular thing this
09:28 would be a great stack for that oh cool
09:32 so yeah that'll be a fun freebie then I
09:34 have a couple other the one after that
09:35 is horizon and if you go to the de site
09:38 that horizontal scrolling container is
09:42 that's horizon and that horizontal that
09:45 contains you know a bunch of other you
09:47 know you can have it whatever you want
09:48 so it could be wider than obviously the
09:50 web page but it Scrolls kind of like in
09:52 iTunes and stuff that you know how
09:54 everything's kind of Scrolls horizontal
09:55 now um so it's something like that boom
09:59 yeah what else what else you got coming
10:03 you got a new beta coming up right yeah
10:06 I just posted I've been talking about it
10:08 for a while but I published it made last
10:13 week it's a first beta for the sitemap
10:17 sitemap submission tool saying that
10:20 helper I mentioned it before on our
10:23 podcast but it's it slide there you can
10:27 every time you change your sitemap file
10:31 every time it gets updated it will
10:33 automatically submit it to Google and
10:37 Bing for you so you don't have to go
10:40 into like Webmaster Tools and tell it to
10:41 index or anything like that so it's
10:43 always fresh it's always getting indexed
10:44 by the search engines and it does it
10:47 does it every day so if you make
10:49 multiple changes to your site it'll only
10:52 make one submission and you know
10:55 basically midnight right in that UTC and
10:58 yeah and supports WordPress as well and
11:01 if you've got multiple sitemaps I think
11:04 we talked about this a long time ago
11:05 offline but if you have multiple
11:07 sitemaps from
11:08 a total CMS closing his blog you just
11:11 have to add those sitemaps to your
11:12 robots file mmm and it's supposed to
11:15 parse the robust file yep um to submit
11:18 to find all those and submit all those
11:19 for you sweet house um we've been
11:22 working on a at on Weaver pics at all
11:25 yeah yeah I started back up on that I
11:28 had her ready to take a break on it
11:30 because I'm I'm thinking about more of
11:34 design stuff with it our code
11:36 architecture kind of problems I try to
11:39 make something that's basically trying
11:42 to support light boxes in a way that is
11:44 scalable and maintainable so I think the
11:48 solution I have for regular regular
11:52 effects and slideshows and all those
11:54 galleries and stuff like that is pretty
11:57 well designed and pretty pretty nice and
12:01 easy to use from a development
12:03 standpoint and obviously that propagates
12:06 up into into the user level right
12:08 because if it's easier for me to code I
12:10 could get and maintain and those
12:13 features get I could add more features
12:15 and make things cleaner right yeah so
12:17 I'm trying to do the same with the light
12:19 boxes so that light boxes are easy to
12:21 integrate easy to maintain and you know
12:25 work cleanly so I'm just kind of put a
12:29 side back on on that kind of stuff but
12:31 you know how it is
12:35 wholeheartedly yeah hey so I actually
12:39 want one cool little nugget on the
12:42 Jordan net aren't children net man
12:44 weaver space site man gonna have to get
12:47 used to that one on the getting started
12:49 page so if you notice step four is get
12:53 chillydog hosting right but a cool isn't
12:55 that I don't think anyone's picked up on
12:57 yet is um if you notice there's like
12:59 some background like accent pictures for
13:00 every single step well those accent
13:03 pictures are pretty much backdrops of
13:05 the city that that particular company is
13:07 in right so chillydog the background
13:10 image is Boston and stacks has Austin
13:15 Texas and I my Weaver space is San
13:18 Francisco and then Rio Mack has
13:20 brightened picture in the background
13:21 so kind of a cool accent that John
13:23 Hopkins came up with I thought that was
13:25 pretty slick idea hmm I'm gonna time to
13:27 go look at this now is this under the
13:29 boat page or a page if you go to getting
13:32 get started in the menu mmm oh you
13:35 picked let's see okay yeah it's a it's a
13:47 non popular yeah it is an AMA I was
13:52 actually gonna think if I can find a one
13:54 that's a little bit more popular well I
13:56 could I could tell you one as it is as
13:59 it is baseball season it is playoffs
14:01 would be the state go sign that that the
14:08 Fenway area but no I know what that is I
14:10 know where you're looking now because
14:11 it's a not a popular angle that's the
14:13 waterfront there yeah that's where that
14:18 where that crane is if you're somebody's
14:19 looking at that picture that area is
14:23 becoming just rapidly developed with
14:26 it's like the go-to area now in in the
14:29 city with all the restaurants and all
14:30 the bars and stuff like that and yeah
14:33 and if you look right to the left of the
14:37 chili dog logo you see the Prudential
14:39 Center there with the little needle on
14:43 the top almost that's very close to
14:47 where I did my undergrad that's a little
14:53 history chili dog there you go the rest
14:58 of the rest is history
15:01 so today actually today Bryan Lipan
15:04 posted an interesting topic on Weaver
15:06 space that I thought would be fun to
15:07 chat about for a few minutes and let's
15:10 get in there the beta version of Mojave
15:14 Apple released today apparently they
15:18 have the ability to so well if anyone
15:20 doesn't know Mojave has a new dark mode
15:22 right well now Safari you can actually
15:25 style your site now based on whether or
15:28 not the user has dark mode enabled so in
15:32 theory like you can detect if a person
15:34 has dark mode and
15:35 it provided different you know colors or
15:37 whatnot um you know on the you know to
15:41 the user what do you think about that
15:43 Gregg any cool I'm honestly I'm not sure
15:47 yet how that's gonna impact my stacks I
15:51 mean I think it's gonna impact impact
15:54 foundation and other rapidweaver themes
15:56 and it's gonna be an upsell and a
15:57 feature maybe I think it's gonna be a
16:00 competitive advantage if you start
16:02 seeing some themes come out with them
16:03 with this kind of support yeah yeah yeah
16:07 I agree you know a lot you know a lot of
16:09 the base colors for things are mostly
16:12 set on the theme level you know I guess
16:14 there is something like if you had you
16:16 know some sort of a border color right
16:18 and then well what if the person wants
16:20 you know it white a white border on
16:22 light theme and then a dark border on
16:25 dark theme that that's getting quite you
16:28 know um you know you know basically
16:32 that's a lot of work essentially
16:36 basically for you the designer that's
16:38 like double the work and is it really
16:41 gonna give you that much payoff like is
16:42 it gonna be that many users using dark
16:45 mode and do you want to double your work
16:47 just for those particular users that are
16:49 in Safari using dark mode like ah man
16:52 that's uh I don't know I I'm sure that
16:57 I'm sure there's probably gonna be some
16:58 you know people that want this as a
17:00 feature and I'm not say it's never gonna
17:02 happen but um you know it definitely is
17:03 a lot of work on on on our part from the
17:06 developer side to basically it's double
17:09 the settings on everything right and
17:10 then it's double the work for you for
17:14 picking all the colors right and it's
17:16 tough enough defining a color scheme for
17:19 a website and to do it twice like man
17:21 that's that's a lot of work you know
17:24 from my own perspective well apples
17:27 gonna make some of that accessible so
17:29 that they figure out the color palette
17:31 automatically in the invert the color is
17:33 intelligently or not I don't know I
17:35 probably not that I don't know it's
17:37 possible maybe but yeah and then on top
17:40 of that like you now have almost double
17:44 the CSS probably because you have to
17:46 have CSS for light mode and the CSS for
17:48 dark mode
17:49 right and only that like you're gonna be
17:51 loading that dark mode CSS on off for
17:53 everything you not just you know devices
17:55 that support it you know so it's tricky
17:58 you know there there's a lot of
17:59 downsides to this
18:01 so yeah just topic I thought would be
18:03 fun to uh to bring up you know be
18:06 interesting cuz you know I'm gonna guess
18:08 Apple is gonna be the first to support
18:11 it you know and at least I would hope if
18:13 they can put this in the beta when it
18:15 does ship their site would be a prime
18:20 example of that support you know yep
18:22 exactly
18:24 and we'll see how was it good it was a
18:26 good post and good find us how then on
18:27 Twitter today to ya know so I think
18:33 we're gonna cut today's short a little
18:35 bit we're at around the 20 minute mark
18:36 so we'll have a quick short episode it
18:38 was fun to be back we will get back into
18:40 the swing of things guys I promise you
18:42 um right Greg will do it yes yes this
18:46 was like this is like we were just ran
18:48 for the first time in like three months
18:50 so it runs back yep sweet
18:56 so Greg where can everyone on the web's
18:59 find you well let me let me let me make
19:02 sure I get this get this right chili dog
19:05 hosting and chili dog software calm and
19:08 at bar chard on Twitter how about you
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