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00:00 okay let's do it boom Greg you've been
00:14 getting much sleep babe yeah what do you say Joe is it Friday yet yeah I swore
00:25 yesterday like all day long it was Friday it was it was weird and I was kind of bummed when I realized it was Wednesday yeah
00:33 and long weekends that Monday was the holiday I know I know long weekends are really
00:42 long yeah how you doing sir
00:47 I'm doing fantastic yourself I'm surviving right now I was little man
00:52 doing and the in the little princess yeah let's thread that needle carefully
01:00 ready for that now he's doing great getting big getting strong and you know
01:07 the big sister is having a blast sweet she like she like pretend like she's the
01:14 mommy at all like I remember my kids yeah yeah a little bit yeah she's doing
01:19 that with her her her stuffed animals and
01:25 you know trying to give hugs and kisses and I want to hold them I want to you
01:31 know um which is which is nice a little different but I'm glad it's you know get
01:39 to enjoy it before they're fighting with each other right yeah there yep my two little ones there they're super close
01:46 with each other but man can they on us on the on a dime just go from you know
01:51 being happy to fighting it's like I was enjoying I was enjoying this for the
01:58 thirty seconds happen to speak in the
02:06 wrapper you were community right people what we've been waiting for for a long time when we could finally start talking about it
02:11 right hinting about if we've been hinting about it for what six e months I
02:18 know right I've been good we haven't
02:23 talked about it on the podcast I don't think I I don't think I've leaked much have I I don't think I have oh we're
02:29 gonna get but now we're gonna get an email saying oh man yeah this date this time at this time go to this timestamp
02:35 Joe you're at everyone if you haven't
02:44 noticed if you're not a frequently user on Weaver space or they're the real Mac forums Isaiah posted a bunch of videos
02:53 about the stacks for beta and if you want early access right now he has like
03:00 a patreon supporter where you can like pay for early developer access else you
03:05 might have to wait I don't think you have to way too much longer I'm especially now that he's released to all
03:10 these videos publicly now and so he's talked about uh I think five or six
03:16 little features and then he has five big features and we're gonna review all those today right yes it's gonna be it's
03:24 gonna might be a long showroom and split it up yeah but here there's a lot here so you want let's start with the little
03:32 features I think I think that's probably a good place to start right what's windings favorite little feature
03:39 figure figuring that I'm five fighting that I can't read anything on my screen it's got a set late dark mode over the
03:47 lack of sleep or getting old but one of the two and my husband like yeah
03:57 dark mode your Mac in dark mode right now yes yeah yeah I'm a dark mode user -
04:05 I really like it no I can't go back go back yeah every time I go back it's like oh
04:11 Jesus that's bright you know yes you don't thing I find like at nighttime
04:16 like there are some webpages even like the Weaver space community that cuz it's still white and it's just like ah that's
04:22 really bright you know and it's I'm not sure what to do about that but yeah dark modes really cool um have you played
04:28 much with the dart all but so what's cool about the dark mode that Isaiah did inside stacks is that it's very configurable right so yes by default on
04:38 like everything's dark right so you got your library basically stacks is broken
04:43 up into three panes right here of your library the main like edit window in the middle and then the the settings pane on
04:50 the right and so by default all of those are dark right um
04:55 but luckily Isaiah is wise enough that he gave us some preferences because I
05:01 don't like that default myself um I prefer actually having the document part
05:07 in the middle white so I I have that still themed light but I have the the two panes on the right and left the
05:14 stacks library in the settings pane both in dark mode how do you do it right now
05:22 dark all dark all inner no yeah I mean
05:29 that's not a bad idea either because it's probably more common but more
05:34 common as in more reflective of users you know sites that you're gonna see yes
05:41 exactly what you can see so it's not a bad idea but right now I stash it all
05:47 all dark and try to focus on the area that the content of editing instead of the
05:54 rest of the stuff well I do want to give one little clue for foundation users if
06:00 you don't mind Gregg for if you're using dark mode if you are in dark mode and you're using foundation inside site
06:06 styles depending on how you're styling your site um there is a button in there called a preview background you probably
06:14 want to turn that off if you like that middle section dark that'll just that's
06:19 a quick little tip there's already checkbox it's been there for five years that will turn off the preview of the
06:25 background inside site styles and I find that if you like that middle part dark
06:30 turn that off and things will work probably more like you expect so a
06:36 little tip there for beta testers and people that are using foundation um so
06:43 Greg moving on my favorite feature okay yes you know I
06:49 I think it's it's probably the the cool new notes and the ability to change the
06:56 title of a stack so now inside most stacks inside every default stack and if
07:03 a qs 'as the default settings so if you see like the default settings in from from a stack you'll notice that at the
07:10 top of the settings now you have the ability to change the title of the stack which changes it just for that instance
07:17 of a stack in edit mode a little label that you have inside edit mode on that
07:23 little blue pill label um you can actually add data to that right so i
07:29 like that and then you can also add a little you could type your own notes as well and those will show at the very
07:34 bottom of the stack so kind of a cool feature I like it and actually one other
07:39 quick thing that's semi-related before stacks three has three different view
07:45 modes there's the tall Grande and venti which is what they're called in the code
07:51 but people don't know that right and stacks for removes the tall in the the
07:56 grande we only have venti view because so many people would accidentally go
08:02 from like the venti view to tall and not know what happened and things look
08:07 differently and they were confused so yeah stacks for only has the venti view
08:13 which is the view that probably most everyone uses that has the blue labels for every single stack inside the edit
08:19 mode yeah I never use those although other modes yeah you know I I baked into I
08:26 tried to get users to use the the tall mode which is the the view mode that's all the way on the Left which is like
08:33 the minimalistic view um if you built a site with foundation and then you switch to the tall view it looks damn close to
08:41 preview actually so I kind of used it as a quick preview and not really anyone
08:47 ever used that feature but it is cool it does work but it's gone in stacks warm
08:53 so what about editing partials yeah you
09:10 know I didn't even know this was a feature until Isaiah did the video um I
09:16 actually learned about this one so right now if you want to edit a partial the partial has to be on a page and then you
09:23 have to double-click it inside the edit mode right and then you enter the partial editor but now what you can do
09:30 is you can actually double click on the partial when it's in the library and so it just it could be in the library it
09:36 doesn't need to be on the page at all um and just double click I you said
09:43 partials right yeah yeah yeah so if you double click on the partial in the library it'll open the partial editor
09:50 mm-hmm yes I thought that was I thought that's pretty handy so you know to you
09:57 know to dive down is that into that separate UI and and have lose context
10:03 when you're working on where it goes what you're writing you know especially if you're writing like marking and material and you have you know the
10:09 content there and the rest of your animation you say you know yep know that
10:17 you know the default partial name are kind of funky right it's like partial you know 1 2 3 4 5 or whatever it is and a lot of times if you're
10:24 looking at your library you're and you see partial and some numbers you're like what in the heck is that right so we
10:29 give you now is you can just double click it you can see what it is and then you can change the name right so that's
10:35 that's really really good so yeah it's a minor thing right just double clicking in the library but I
10:41 think it's I think it's really useful super useful yeah yeah that is nice in
10:48 the code is I still generate the same unique IDs for all the classes and ID's yes yep yep
10:54 although all the classes and ID's are still the same we still have all the IDs um yeah I tried to I tried to get Isaiah
11:01 to take that ID and I just apply instead of applying it as an ID just throw it in the class field um so yeah it's a unique
11:09 class that would might only be applied to that one thing but that I don't know
11:15 um I thought that would have been cool but yeah all stacks will have IDs well
11:21 what would you do is something like that there are some things like um let's say
11:26 like a slider for instance if you have stacks um inside of a slider and some slider libraries use clone write to
11:34 clone so it so you could do like infinite looping and if you clone um you
11:40 know HTML Dom elements a lot of times those functions will remove will strip the ID so it doesn't have duplicate IDs
11:47 and because there's no IDs on there none of the CSS works right so it because the
11:55 IDS got stripped right so there are just some edge case scenarios where it could
12:01 potentially be nice to not have IDs on things yeah I was just trying to think
12:06 of like applying CSS is probably faster with the IDS of the next CSS classes yeah for the parser it could be I mean
12:13 is that gonna be something that you and I would really notice I don't know I don't think so no no that that sort of
12:20 stuff is so fast nowadays you know yeah yeah
12:25 no cool no but you are right like you know technically it is faster to apply
12:31 styles to an ID than it is to a class yeah and I could see as a and I want not
12:38 wanting to break anything so yep in backwards compatibility and all that stuff right because so you know
12:43 everything every stack out there right now is based off or most of them are based off IDs right so yeah I I you know
12:49 the more I thought about it I can understand why why that wouldn't wasn't gonna happen but man can dream sometimes
12:57 so next one speaking about ESS glasses is Isaiah
13:02 allows us now to add our own custom classes to a stack pretty interesting
13:09 now not just us as a developer it's actually the end users so you guys you can add your own classes to a stack so
13:16 that if you're a power user and you know a little bit of CSS you can really start
13:22 doing some powerful stuff because you can target stuff with your own classes and all kinds of stuff so that's pretty interesting feature um it'll be
13:28 interesting to see how power users use that and exploit that for their for
13:34 their own purposes that that's a fun one I'm I'm kind of interested to see how how many users embrace that yeah I
13:42 haven't I haven't tried it I wonder I wonder if you can if you can break in and add in illegal characters in there
13:54 just curious how much sanitation Isaiah does there but it'd be fun for me to try
14:00 but anyone if you want to so if you want to apply multiple classes just everyone so you know you just do class namespace
14:08 class namespace class names you get you can apply multiple classes so if you like a you know class red space circle
14:16 or something like that right and then you know that would apply you know background color red and border radius
14:22 100 percent or something like that right I mean I'm gonna be careful though
14:28 right if the theme already defines as he has this class and if some state already
14:34 defines it you know you may want to prefix your CSS classes with your your initials or
14:40 something like that that's good that's a good point very good point yeah I keep yeah it could be yeah you probably don't
14:46 want to label something like closed or open like some generic class that chances are there's some stack out there is using
14:52 dot closed on a on a button or something like that and it may you know give you
14:59 some unexpected results good shout I mean we think about that yeah so JW
15:05 circle JW read there we go good point
15:10 everyone smart see huh
15:16 I think it's cuz you're wearing a red shirt I just blares goodbye I keep me awake we have one more little feature on
15:27 our list that was um don't publish a stack have you played around with that one much Greg honestly no okay I usually
15:37 die for the only I usually edit pages not individual ones okay so what this is is you know if there's a bunch of stacks
15:43 out there I had one called Locker that I actually removed from my site it's no longer available
15:48 um and what it did is that allows you to add stacks to it and then you could it wouldn't publish those stacks right um
15:54 it would keep it in edit mode but there were some drawbacks and these drawbacks are why I removed it from my store is
16:00 that the CSS and JavaScript for those stacks that you put inside my locker stack would still get published right um
16:07 so yes if you're using anything like that I think there's another one out
16:13 there called backpack stop using those please um in stacks for now
16:18 Isaiah added a checkbox it's in the I think it's in there responsive layout settings that says do not publish this
16:25 stack and if you check that it actually does it the right way um which it
16:31 couldn't be done the right way before because there was no api's for it so right now if you if you have a stack to the page and you check that box none of
16:39 it gets published like and all of its contents too so if you have a whole column and you check that box that
16:45 entire column and everything in it won't get published none of javascript none of the HTML none of the
16:51 CSS nothing so yeah that's a cool one for people that want to do that because
16:58 yeah because you want to do that way to
17:07 get really really deep there Joe yeah
17:12 which might be great for people editing the size of working a draft content you know for beta testing yep yeah if your
17:21 bait yeah if you're testing a new thing you're like I don't let's turn or and actually another thing is like if you want to help if you want to debug why
17:27 something mate might not be working on the page this is actually a good use case for it I never thought about this like something's broken on the page just
17:34 start checking this on other stacks to kind of remove them from the page without actually removing them from the page right to kind of see how it affects
17:42 other things on the page right so it's a good debugging tool actually never even thought of that that's a great way of
17:48 debugging a web page sweet I like it yeah good idea good idea had Tim show oh
18:01 hey Greg we're now under the big features number one well this is your
18:08 this is your chance to do a drum roll what you wanna do you want to take that opportunity oh oh man and drum roll go
18:21 Greg my my favorite one or you want to take the first one uh whichever one I
18:27 don't care you pick alright my favorite one probably site images okay
18:33 yeah site images let choose retain one
18:39 copy of an image used throughout your site so if you have a banner if you have your
18:45 a profile image if you have product image that I use throughout my site you
18:52 only have one copy on the site so all of those instances that you use can be referenced that same image so now you'd
18:58 have to publish ten copies you don't have to have that browser hit for every
19:04 single image that you load that's different it's now your browser cache it so your speeds up your site speeds up your
19:12 publishing decreases your website size win/win/win sweet yep so in case anyone
19:19 didn't know right if you just drag and drop an image into stacks right now in version 3 essentially what does is it
19:27 creates an image but if let's say you copy and paste that image even if it was on the same exact web page you actually
19:33 have two images getting published even though you think it might be the same image it's not right if that image gets
19:39 published twice and if you use that image on like let's say in your footer right let's say even in a parcel let's
19:45 say you have it some images and it's in a footer parcel and you think that it might be used in the same image on every
19:51 page nope it's using different images on every page so that image gets uploaded
19:57 every single time right and yeah and stacks for we now have a site image and
20:02 by default if you drag and drop an image directly onto the stacks edit mode it becomes a site image now this is a
20:11 rapidweaver 8 only feature while stacks for does work in referee / 7 wrapper / 7
20:17 does not have the site image feature the reason for that is the site image
20:23 feature uses rapidweaver resources and rap over 8 has the API for that right
20:30 beaver 7 does not so that is why in actually so if you create a site image inside stacks 4 and you open up your
20:37 resources in rap Weaver you will see that image in the resources because Stax uses that resources API so and one more
20:47 thing with site images that we actually lose is so in stacks 3 the normal image
20:54 stack if you double click on the image you could like if I opened up this image editor where it could like
21:01 you know you could resize the image or you can even do some like manipulation which I never I never personally ever
21:07 used that ever because I was trying to optimize my images before I ever add them in directly over first but yeah
21:14 that's gone with site images you don't have any of that image editing stuff um you get what you drag in so it is very
21:22 important that you pre optimize your images before you add them to the project and we've done several episodes
21:28 already on optimizing images so make sure you check those out yes we have yes
21:34 we have also good good image editors acorn Pixelmator and the other ones you
21:42 want to add affinity yeah yeah I've been trying to use the Finity more lately greg on most because they have ipad apps
21:49 now so i thought its kind of cool like you know certain some work on my Mac and then maybe I'm on my sofa and I can open
21:54 up and actually work on a project on an image on my iPad on the sofa it's been
22:00 actually kind of interesting I'm learning how to use the app um yeah but yeah it's been fun okay my next favorite
22:07 feature is multi selection I have to say
22:12 I am loving that so much and it's really powerful so um so now you can actually
22:20 select multiple stacks and you can move multiple stacks at the same time and you
22:26 can uh you know select multiple stacks delete them it is a godsend like it's
22:32 really really cool and isiah actually went to the nth degree here and if you
22:37 select multiple stacks of the same stack you can actually change the settings on those stacks as well right so let's say
22:45 you you select um you know two different two column stacks you can actually
22:50 change the split or the boarder settings or whatnot on them so that they're the same like that's really cool
22:57 like I didn't expect him to do that I just I would have been happy with just straight multiple selection so I could delete multiple stacks at the same time
23:03 or move multiple stacks and stuff like that but that thing of you know changing the settings on multiple stacks at the
23:09 same time that's pretty slick yeah that's pretty cool yeah pretty cool
23:17 and I know in 4.1 he plans on having multi-select in the library as well so
23:23 you can multi-select maybe oh maybe I'm leaking information sorry I said but it
23:28 is it is in the public issues thing as a feature request it is if not many people
23:36 know where to find it probably but it is open to the public Jose lasted this long he couldn't keep
23:47 it all a secret he's only human next
23:58 features yours next features mine I like the new text editing okay you could say it's it's concise is
24:06 focused the controls are directly there and the text editing feel that you're working
24:12 with for those is hard to describe in a podcast and but when you guys see it I'm
24:19 sure you guys like it too it keeps your keeps your library I'm
24:24 sorry your edit you I clean and together and you know when you go to edit you're
24:30 focused and the correct relevant controls are right there at your fingertips so everything is um well put
24:39 together yep yeah what I like it is I think the number one thing I like about the new
24:45 editing now there's both the style text editor and the markdown editor also the HTML editor right so there's three
24:51 different styles of the editor that they look very similar but there are three different styles right they have different toolbar buttons but what I
24:57 like about them is the horrible problem before us if you had like very little
25:03 area to edit your text let's see had like a five column stack or something like that with text in it and he double
25:08 click the text before in saks 3 like it was kind of hard to edit that text like it was almost impossible right but now
25:14 the new editor kind of jumps out and it gives you a lot of space to edit that text no matter how much space you
25:20 actually have inside stacks edit mode that is really cool
25:26 and what Gregg says about the buttons being all there that's really cool too in sacks 3 like all the buttons are
25:32 either at the very top of the stacks edit mode like towards the top of the rack weaver window and there's some other buttons at the bottom of the wrap
25:38 weaver window but now they're all within a little the little editing window now so they're much easier to use isaiah
25:46 completely rewrote the whole new custom UI for it it looks really nice yes angry
25:55 angry you went above and beyond yes next one is library customization and a lot
26:04 of people have been wanting this um pretty simple right we can now have custom libraries inside the stacks
26:13 library right so custom groups sorry not custom libraries custom groups so you know the little before you just add um you know you could create custom
26:20 groups before but they were always a folder icon right and yeah that kind of
26:26 sucked alright so now you can actually change the icon you can access the entire font awesome library you can
26:33 choose what icon you want you can even change the color of them so that's really cool so now you can have all
26:38 kinds of funny or fun icons on the sides so so you can customize your library
26:45 groups yeah or save I mean it's pretty simple like it's um you can you've
26:51 always been able to create custom groups but now you can actually assign an icon and color to them so really exciting
26:57 there yes and think that leaves us with one more one more and that is that is
27:05 the biggie I think is the biggie externals and templates right let me
27:15 give a crack at externally reg an external is a partial and you can share
27:23 between projects mmm that's exciting so I there are a lot of users out there
27:30 that I know what they would do before is they would they would create a a repu
27:35 for project purely to store partials right because they had parcels they wanted to use a crossbow
27:40 projects and you no longer need to do that because you can actually save a partial um and it actually shows up as a
27:47 stack in it you can actually show it and finder and it shows up as a stack in your library
27:52 um it creates a folder called externals within the stacks folder and you can see
27:57 all of your externals there and yeah really really cool it could be a little
28:03 dangerous though and isiah does a great job in his video make sure you check out his video he talks about some pitfalls
28:09 of why you might want to be careful with externals because if you're using it if let's say you build an external in
28:15 website a and then you you look you also use that external and website B but then
28:21 you're like in website B you want to make some changes but you forgot that you did that when you go back to website a and those changes are now reflected in
28:29 website a right so um you have to be careful whenever you modify the external it will be modified for all projects
28:36 right so definitely need to be careful of that but very powerful I'm excited to
28:42 see how people use these um now one thing I'm excited about is because um me
28:48 as a developer I can now start shipping this stuff right now what B is the
28:53 developer or us as a developer Gregg what we could ship is actually a template right so um we we can ship
29:02 read-only partials which are effectively called templates right so what that
29:09 means is it behaves exactly like what a personal is I can pre build a layout with a bunch of settings and all that
29:14 stuff but you can't edit it what you can do is you can unpack it or you can convert it to a partial or convert it to
29:21 an external if you want but that's really cool I'm looking forward to that I've been wanting to you know templates
29:30 were actually a feature in stacks too and they kind of failed and I'm they're
29:37 coming back in stacks for and I think this implementation is spot-on I think
29:43 they're really gonna take off now because they're really a they're really easy to create that if you know how to
29:49 create a parcel you can create an external and a template right so really cool really powerful stuff there and us
29:56 developers we can actually shift those as a part of our stacks so to kind of give you pre-built layouts and pre-built
30:02 setups for our stacks so I'm really looking forward to ask yes
30:08 yes being able to provide demos for people is really really really important
30:16 time consuming sometimes so yes being able to being able to make it a little bit easier it was really helpful for
30:23 everybody so cool Gregg I think that wraps up
30:28 we've gone through every single awesome new feature coming up in stacks for when is the beta gonna drop who knows
30:34 everybody keep a watch out on Weaver space and also the real Mac forums Isaiah will let us know but if you want
30:41 early access now go ahead and hit up his patreon page yeah I think you have to give them like 10 bucks and you can get
30:47 early access to it now if you really really really want it so yeah Greg any
30:53 any last closing thoughts on stacks for well done I say I know you've been
30:58 working hard out of the last few years so good luck dude I have to congrats yep
31:05 yes we uh we I am I am in full in debt to Isaiah cuz yeah I I get to do what I
31:12 love because he makes awesome software that allows me to do what I do so thanks
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