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00:00 I don't see your video but oh there we
00:01 go there's a beautiful face oh yeah
00:04 there's a heart or yeah
00:05 oh that's this is so going in the
00:07 pre-roll all right kick it off
00:21 whoa forgot how loud that is in my
00:24 headphones and I can't hear it so yeah
00:30 how's it going Greg your honor you are
00:33 on vacation how do you have a good time
00:35 I did had a great time saw family so
00:39 I've met a fellow rapidweaver in person
00:42 oh yeah who is that
00:44 in my gnome Brent Oh Brent oh man I'm
00:48 sorry you had to go see him I don't know
00:51 who I feel more sorry for Brent or you I
00:53 don't know it's a hard choice yeah I
00:59 understand
01:00 ass good time sweeper did he wear his
01:04 cowboy hat he did oh wow you got the
01:08 Hickman nice I realize they came in
01:12 different flavors
01:16 redneck Brent okay yeah thanks guy we
01:21 love you Brett xoxo yeah so today we
01:29 were just gonna get back roll in in the
01:31 kick of things that we're gonna talk
01:33 about publishing best practices not
01:36 thought to be good but topic I know a
01:37 lot of people around the world and
01:40 sending in support your text support
01:42 requests and I see them doing stuff that
01:45 I don't know I personally wouldn't do so
01:47 I thought this would be a good topic to
01:50 talk about basically how we published to
01:52 our server how it organized your server
01:55 do how do you publish to a subdomain to
01:57 be published to a folder you know so on
02:00 and so forth so
02:03 maybe we should get started Greg with
02:04 how to publish like in terms of like do
02:07 we use wrap weavers you know built in
02:09 publishing or do we use an FTP app right
02:12 what do you what what are your thoughts
02:13 on that Greg
02:16 question Jo interesting question the
02:18 easiest thing that I see people use is
02:21 just wrapping the rift straight up yep
02:23 so if you're getting started definitely
02:26 use rapid Weaver's built an engine
02:28 I recommend of course SFTP over FTP or D
02:34 XI arby's security extra benefits a
02:37 security there yeah like you know I see
02:41 a lot of clients that have hosts that
02:43 don't even support SFTP I don't know I
02:45 would personally if my host didn't
02:47 support SFTP I'd be looking somewhere
02:49 else
02:49 like I think that should just should
02:51 just be a de-facto like every host
02:53 should support SFTP just my personal
02:56 opinion I agree and there's there's
02:59 technical implications and so than that
03:01 and I can understand why people who I
03:05 host don't have that but why is that
03:07 okay just for my own purposes why would
03:09 a host not have SFTP it's the
03:13 authentication part because to have SFTP
03:17 you need SSH and that needs to be
03:19 through the user authentication and
03:21 where FTP has a different authentication
03:26 method mechanism that doesn't
03:27 authenticate through system users users
03:30 that actually can login to the system
03:32 and so you can have like in it you could
03:35 have an FTP account through the FTP
03:38 beaming server diamond
03:41 Oh totally severed there we go I learned
03:43 something new I didn't even know that I
03:44 just you know every server I've always
03:46 been to you know I had an account on the
03:48 server and our FTP with my user account
03:49 that was just how it happened right so
03:51 right
03:52 okay yeah so it's especially why you can
03:56 create additional FTP users but you
03:58 can't create additional SFTP users
04:03 make sense now aha says the Biman I see
04:05 I see I see
04:07 very interesting well I still stand by
04:10 it
04:10 your host should I have a sotp if you
04:12 don't maybe go to look somewhere else
04:14 maybe chili dog hosting pretty cool guy
04:17 runs that thing
04:19 yeah here he's all right now so getting
04:22 back to the cop we had he doesn't have a
04:29 outside of that we mean we talked about
04:31 it in our previous episodes and we done
04:33 and our listeners who haven't heard you
04:35 definitely go back but I typically use
04:40 transmitted or forklift for my for my
04:43 FTP applications or SFTP applications
04:45 and the reason for that is I like to
04:49 optimize my images I like to optimize my
04:55 HTML Javascript and CSS files using
04:58 third-party tools and to do that I
05:02 always export them export my site to a
05:05 folder and run those tools against that
05:08 folder like the entire folder so it
05:11 scans my entire website for all the
05:13 images not just images that I add but
05:15 images that third-party stock developers
05:17 add or other plugins have and so
05:20 optimizing them all at once so I don't
05:22 have to even think about doing that on
05:25 an individual basis and then I just
05:26 upload that to my server suite
05:30 you know I I use the built-in rapper
05:32 stuff um well okay I all admit for much
05:37 for my for my website for Joe work Runet
05:40 and other you know rapper websites that
05:44 are that support my business I don't use
05:47 s I don't use the built in publishing I
05:49 use something that's really really quite
05:52 advanced and very very geeky I won't go
05:55 into all the details here I'll give you
05:57 a get because I know everyone's gonna be
05:58 dying to know what does Joe do right
06:01 so I they're dying yeah they're dying to
06:04 know I know right
06:05 so I export everything locally okay and
06:08 then I use a version control system
06:09 called get and ISTEP version controls my
06:13 entire web directory and then I commit
06:15 that to github and then I have now this
06:19 is where it gets super geeky on my
06:21 multiple servers I have get hooks that
06:25 get notified when a change happens in my
06:28 repository they then connect remotely to
06:31 my github repository and pull down the
06:33 latest version of my website and
06:35 essentially I have a cron job that
06:36 checks every so often as well that just
06:38 checks for and pulls down the latest
06:39 version of my website from github so
06:43 that's kind of how I do it why do I do
06:45 it that way you might ask it's not just
06:48 because I want to be super uber geeky
06:50 although that's partly the reason I
06:52 guess
06:54 the reason I I actually do it is so that
06:57 I can fail over so let's say I have you
07:02 know I have two servers in New York and
07:03 I have a server in San Francisco and a
07:05 server in LA and if I ever want to let's
07:08 say you know there's a server
07:11 maintenance going on in the datacenter
07:13 or there's an outage in one of the data
07:14 centers I can easily just go to
07:17 CloudFlare which is my DNS manager and I
07:20 can change the IP address to my website
07:21 and magically change it to the IP
07:23 address of a different data center and
07:25 voila I magically already have my site
07:28 automatically up and running with
07:30 everything fully functional because it
07:32 always pulls down the latest version
07:34 from github that is why I do it that way
07:37 okay now I do have to say if in the
07:41 latest version of rap in rap we were
07:42 seven they is they introduced something
07:45 pretty cool that you can actually do
07:48 something very similar if you wanted to
07:49 get that sort of advanced failover
07:51 functionality because in revenue over
07:54 seven you can have you can publish to
07:56 multiple locations now inside your rap
07:58 river project so inside your project you
08:00 can actually configure multiple
08:01 destinations when you publish so you can
08:04 have multiple servers you can publish
08:05 locally as well and in the publish tool
08:09 bar button you can actually select where
08:13 you want to publish when you click the
08:14 publish button right so you can
08:17 configure could potentially configure
08:19 multiple different servers and then
08:21 select which server you want to publish
08:22 to hit publish and it will publish you
08:26 know the current site to that server um
08:27 so that's kind of how if you wanted to
08:30 do it a kind of the rapid uber way I'd
08:32 recommend you know IDs right before
08:35 publishing for all my testing sites and
08:37 stuff like that so if I'm playing around
08:38 with something and I want to quickly
08:39 publish I use right pre was built in
08:41 publishing and I've never actually ever
08:44 had any issues ever with rappers
08:46 publishing never it's never bombed on me
08:49 once and I know I see some people nut on
08:52 the on the forums on the right pre
08:54 reforms that have you know incessant
08:56 issues with rap Weaver publishing and
08:58 they're very vocal about it but
09:02 fortunately I think they're the the
09:04 minority they're the vocal minority and
09:06 I know I as well as
09:08 most of the reprieve users have never
09:10 had any issues with the publishing
09:12 engine inside Rapid River so so yeah but
09:17 you know a tools like transmit are very
09:19 good because they can you know do dips
09:21 on what's on the server versus you know
09:23 analyzing your local folder and only
09:26 publish the changed files so that could
09:28 be a good that's a diff what's a jiff
09:30 joke diff is a difference so it will
09:33 maybe gonna make me go into this okay so
09:36 transmitted well there's multiple option
09:38 multiple ways to do this I think the
09:39 default way is by the date of the file
09:42 so or you could do by file size and
09:44 basically what transmitted will do is
09:45 it'll go to your server look at that
09:46 file on the server and check the date or
09:49 size of the file on your local folder
09:51 and you'll say oh look this file is the
09:53 same I'm not gonna publish this file
09:55 okay and then conversely it'll say if
09:57 this file is different
09:59 it will then mark that file for
10:01 publishing and it will publish it when
10:03 you click the publish button did I do
10:07 that okay Gregorio then Wow Joe that
10:09 sounds so cool yeah no that's that's
10:17 good so a nice thing about nice thing
10:19 about the transmitted thing is that if
10:22 there's nothing changed or any of the
10:23 files that did change only that part so
10:26 it's kind of like the smart publishing
10:27 in after Weaver yeah in that regard so
10:29 only the changed content gets uploaded
10:31 again yes oh and you know what to talk
10:35 about that the smart publishing and wrap
10:36 Weaver sometimes it could be not so
10:39 smart right I mean it for the most part
10:42 it is great in terms of only publishing
10:44 the files that have changed but if
10:46 you've recently like updated a stack and
10:48 you want to make sure that like all the
10:50 changes for you know all those updates
10:52 are published to the server um obviously
10:54 I mean I can't really blame wrap Weaver
10:57 for this I think it's you know it's it
10:59 doesn't know right it doesn't know that
11:00 these these things change and you would
11:02 expect them to publish let's say a new
11:04 version of total CMS or maybe some
11:06 updates to PHP or JavaScript library
11:09 from that another stack ships right so
11:11 if if you update a stack and you want to
11:15 make sure that all of those changes in
11:17 the supporting files are are modified on
11:19 your server a lot of times in rap you
11:21 have to go to file and
11:22 republish all files right but if he was
11:25 something like transmit it actually then
11:27 analyzes all the files on the fly like
11:29 reg was saying and then it'll only
11:31 publish the files that it actually needs
11:34 to
11:36 well yeah or a little hidden feature if
11:41 anybody's looking to experiment with to
11:43 get chili dog users can actually SSH in
11:47 and use getting through the command line
11:50 or advanced users only and probably
11:53 opening myself oh oh explode
11:56 uh-huh I may be editing this part of the
11:58 podcast out yeah this is not to get
12:03 you're looking for yeah get you ever
12:08 heard about get know there's who do she
12:12 cares so much I work like Joe myself and
12:15 stuff yep actually installed and
12:18 available in your path when you s si Jin
12:21 sweet
12:24 don't think anybody anybody uses it to
12:25 be honest yeah I wouldn't expect 99.99%
12:29 of the people out there that they don't
12:31 need it
12:31 right sorry okay next up how about
12:35 publishing to a folder versus a
12:38 sub-domain
12:39 right so
12:43 a lot of people do this one way some
12:44 people do it the other way right I see a
12:46 lot of people they have let's say a
12:48 website my website comm and if they want
12:51 to test something new they a lot of
12:53 times they'll publish it to my website
12:55 comm slash testing or you know new page
12:58 and then they'll publish the entire new
13:01 website inside that subfolder right and
13:04 then another approach is to create a sub
13:07 domain which is like my sub domain or
13:09 like sandbox I like to use sandbox for
13:12 like a testing domain sandbox my website
13:14 comm right and then that entire sub
13:17 domain is your main you know testing
13:20 subdomain so you publish to that website
13:22 and then you know you can view it just
13:24 as if it was your main production
13:26 website which which method do you prefer
13:28 Greg well I think there's only one
13:31 choice here to be honest that's just the
13:35 subdomain approaches you're describing
13:36 you know your it would be horrible if
13:39 you accidentally deleted your main
13:40 website I'll try to publish a test page
13:44 for yourself or your client so don't
13:48 bother risking it just use the subdomain
13:50 and just use that as your play your play
13:53 pen your sandbox as you said and you
13:57 know go wild in there and don't worry
13:59 about actually accidentally messing up
14:01 your website and deleting overwriting a
14:02 file with the same name like your index
14:05 try to HTML in your index dot PHP and
14:06 you go to your website and oops somebody
14:09 else's content is there because you
14:11 accidentally over wrote it so I don't I
14:14 don't think there's this too many
14:16 options here how to do this right yeah
14:17 it really is the subdomain is really the
14:20 best way to go I don't think you should
14:23 ever create a subfolder a part of your
14:25 website and then be publishing new
14:27 websites to subfolders that is just a
14:29 recipe for disaster
14:31 ok and plus another benefit of creating
14:33 the subdomain is
14:37 if you're if you're if you're testing a
14:38 completely new website right and you
14:40 publish it to a sub-domain because all
14:43 the paths and everything are the same as
14:46 if you published it again to the main
14:48 domain right I'm not explaining this
14:51 properly um so let's say I publish a
14:55 let's take for example I publish to a
14:58 subfolder so I go to my website to comm
15:00 slash folder slash and then um you know
15:03 index.html that is the the my new test
15:08 site that I'm playing with right and
15:10 inside there let's say I have a folder
15:12 called contact me and about okay and if
15:15 I were to reference any sort of files or
15:17 maybe have some paths in there or have
15:20 some add-ons such as total CMS that kind
15:22 of stores relative paths to other things
15:24 within where you're currently at right
15:27 the path to the about page is now my
15:31 website comm slash test slash about
15:33 right it's not it's not the exact same
15:37 thing as the live production web site
15:40 would be which is just slash about right
15:42 it's slash test slash about so by going
15:46 to a sub domain I could have my sub
15:48 domain calm right or subdomain dot my
15:51 web site calm slash about right
15:54 that means the folder structure of my
15:56 test website is now identical to what
16:00 the the ultimate end domain is going to
16:05 be am i explaining this properly Gregg
16:07 I'm trying to do you understand what I
16:10 mean so I think so you're just you're
16:11 just saying that your test site is gonna
16:14 parallel your live sighting exactly yeah
16:16 it's it's gonna look it's gonna mirror
16:18 it right so there's there's gonna be no
16:20 contentions about oh the path is gonna
16:23 be different when I go production it's
16:25 no if you do if you go the subdomain
16:27 route it's gonna be identical so there's
16:29 there's less things that could go wrong
16:31 when you want to eventually move that
16:33 test website to production
16:38 right I think I said that right
16:42 yeah I think so okay cool so you'd make
16:45 it I'll go for it I shouldn't make a
16:48 comment about the the publishing folder
16:50 for subdomain thing and it's actually
16:52 historical thing
16:56 troll panels didn't support
16:59 putting
17:01 the main folder free website the
17:03 document route outside of
17:07 HTML folder until probably two years ago
17:12 a year and a half two years ago so it's
17:15 relatively relatively new that you can
17:20 actually have
17:21 your website subdomain folder outside of
17:25 that public HTML so you could actually
17:26 do what you're saying and have it
17:28 side-by-side and then he on the server
17:31 so it's um I was actually gonna go to
17:34 mine that falls perfectly to my next
17:36 point I was gonna make is I've seen a
17:38 lot of people have this where where they
17:40 published to their main site and then
17:42 they have like folders in their main
17:44 site for a subdomain and I've never
17:47 understood why people did that and now
17:49 that you were just explaining me that
17:50 it's a limit it was a limitation of
17:52 cPanel that explains it cuz I thought
17:55 that was horrible as well right the way
17:58 I organized my server is if you if you
18:01 look at my public HTML directory where
18:03 all my websites are I have a folder for
18:05 every single website and I keep it
18:07 simple the name of the folder is the
18:09 Nate is the domain of that website right
18:11 so I have a Jew or Gwinnett folder I
18:13 have a total CMS com folder I they email
18:15 stacks com folder so on and so forth
18:17 right so I have a folder for that domain
18:19 and then inside that mold in that inside
18:22 that folder magically guess what's in it
18:25 the published website and that's it
18:27 right so keep things really simple
18:30 segmenting don't put websites inside
18:33 subfolders of other websites it's just
18:35 gonna mess stuff up it's just a recipe
18:37 for disaster in my book
18:40 right here cool here yeah it may it may
18:43 take a little work to refactoring and
18:46 update things but if you're doing this a
18:48 lot you'll feel a lot more secure but
18:52 your changes once they wanted to worry
18:54 as much yep you know I know a lot of you
18:57 know a lot of our listeners our web
18:59 designers and they design websites for
19:00 other people and I know a lot of them
19:02 will do you know let's say my design
19:05 company calm and then they'll do slash
19:07 and they'll create a folder for their
19:09 customer right and again what you should
19:12 be doing is create a sub domain for that
19:14 customer right just like we're talking
19:16 about so create a sub domain for that
19:17 customer and that sub domain on your it
19:20 could be you know maybe a test domain
19:22 that you have or your main domain so you
19:24 know my customer dot you know my web
19:27 design company com that is where you
19:30 should be publishing your customers
19:31 direct your customers website right not
19:34 in a subfolder of your main website so
19:37 you know yep yeah important tip thumb
19:40 yeah
19:42 don't install analytic software under
19:45 test sites fair enough fair enough
19:48 right he's probably you know um you know
19:50 put like a robots.txt file in there that
19:52 says you know disallow all or something
19:54 like that so that you know search
19:56 engines aren't indexing your sandbox
19:57 sites and all that jazz so yep good call
20:00 yeah I've had I've had people ask me
20:03 about why is my site showing up under
20:07 different URL or whatever you know yep I
20:10 don't don't don't kids for the longest
20:13 time I had so you know I I creep all the
20:16 projects that I make for like my
20:18 products I give away right so like my
20:21 foundation stacks com website like that
20:24 project file comes with foundation right
20:26 and obviously I had analytics my
20:30 analytic stuff in there because it was
20:32 the actual project I used for the actual
20:34 website and tons of people were
20:36 publishing that online right so like I'd
20:40 get all this freak analytics that was
20:42 like what the hell's this like so
20:44 finally I'd locked it down so like none
20:46 of the analytic stuff comes through and
20:48 and whatnot but yeah that that was my
20:50 bad a lesson learned on my part so yeah
20:56 the last the last out go for egg rookie
20:59 mistake yes rookie mistake
21:02 um next up I think the last thing for
21:05 publishing is is kind of the folder
21:08 structure in which you structure your
21:11 rap Weaver project I think it's this is
21:12 loosely related to publishing and what I
21:14 mean by that is when you're defining
21:17 your folder paths inside rapidweaver
21:20 you know you can nest pages inside the
21:22 the page inspector or not the page
21:24 inspector the page navigation on the
21:27 left-hand pane right what is that called
21:29 the library
21:30 I think it's right so basically where
21:33 you can create your hierarchy of pages
21:34 now let's say I had a page called that
21:38 was in a folder called news and then
21:40 inside there I have a sub page that's
21:43 called
21:45 sports or something like that right now
21:48 if let's say on the top level
21:50 I had the folder name called just News
21:52 and then since the sports page is inside
21:56 that it's a child of it right and I give
21:59 that a folder name of sports the
22:01 published folder name is / news / sports
22:05 okay well let me preface this with
22:07 saying please keep all of your pages
22:10 named index.html or index.php do not go
22:14 naming your web pages some crazy thing
22:17 okay do yourself a favor just keep them
22:19 named index.html or index.php that's it
22:23 okay okay
22:24 back to back to my folder story so if
22:29 you have nested folders you have / news
22:31 / sports just by putting the folder name
22:34 and then nesting sports inside news okay
22:37 I don't think you should do it that way
22:40 okay because um let's say I have a slash
22:43 about um and then if I move that sports
22:45 folder into us as a sub page of about
22:50 basically now my sports pages slash
22:53 about slash sports okay
22:58 how I recommend you do it is in your
23:01 folder paths always put the full path to
23:06 that page in your folder okay therefore
23:09 what I mean is you create your folder
23:12 structure in your hierarchy of your web
23:14 pages however you want so that they look
23:16 the way that they do inside your menu
23:18 but
23:20 fully qualify your folder names for all
23:23 your pages meaning for the news it would
23:26 be slash news for my sports news page I
23:30 would have as my folder name / news /
23:34 sports I would actually put in the
23:37 slashes not just the folder name / news
23:40 / sports the reason I say this to do it
23:44 this way is because at this point if you
23:47 manually set in that folder name there
23:49 is zeroed out where that webpage is
23:52 going to be published it's going to be
23:54 published - / news / sports okay or /
23:58 about / whatever right put in the fully
24:00 qualified folder name if you want to see
24:04 example this go ahead and you could
24:05 download the my foundation website the
24:07 project I was just talking about a few
24:09 minutes ago that that's a pretty large
24:11 rapper project and it has a lot of
24:13 nested pages and it's just even if you
24:15 don't have foundation just look at all
24:17 the folder names in there and everything
24:19 is fully qualified to the exact folder
24:22 path right what do you think reg about
24:24 this I - the exact opposite Oh
24:29 contention oh this is this is juicy
24:33 yes scandalous okay our first fight
24:38 where's the ding ding let's go
24:43 to manage it that way I like to I like
24:44 to have everything nested I don't my
24:47 folders don't typically span more than
24:53 one or two words hyphenated by a - yes
24:57 yes
24:57 don't use spaces spaces are ugly yes
25:02 everything lowercase that's just me yes
25:04 okay well first off please tell me you
25:06 agree with the index part
25:09 yes absolutely okay cool thank you
25:11 everything everything index dot PHP
25:13 though fair enough yeah because if
25:17 you're if you accidentally publish an
25:19 index dot HTML and index dot PHP I get
25:22 this a lot yeah people say my website
25:25 pages aren't showing up and it turns out
25:27 they have both published in a directory
25:29 yep and web servers always prefer if
25:32 there's a conflict like this
25:34 yes lip servers always prefer the index
25:36 dot HTML over the index dot PHP oh and
25:39 tell me Greg how would I change my
25:41 default page to be indexed PHP it's
25:45 probably a setting Joe I'm guessing it's
25:47 a setting yes everyone there is a
25:50 setting where you can change your
25:51 default page extension to be the default
25:54 HTML change it to be PHP um it's in the
25:58 general and then the advanced at the
26:00 very very bottom exactly hdto the
26:02 extension there we go ok Greg go on why
26:06 do you do the net the nested way instead
26:07 of fully qualifying the folder paths
26:11 I'm afraid to make any typos that's
26:14 probably that's enough it's that simple
26:16 okay right Amina if
26:19 my names are nice and simple I organized
26:22 my folders how I how I want to
26:24 structured and I don't worry about
26:26 making a typo and accidentally trying to
26:28 remember where everything else fell
26:31 relative to it next to it so in my head
26:33 like slash products slash
26:36 Suor X or something okay and I have a
26:40 product page and then I'll have an S
26:42 your X page and I don't have gridiron
26:45 page etc and I don't have to worry about
26:47 having a typo and did I say products or
26:50 product you know was there an S in there
26:53 you know you see what I'm saying fair
26:55 enough I'd do it once if I do it once I
26:57 get it right and I don't have to worry
26:58 about updating it on multiple pages at
27:00 multiple times across I have text expand
27:03 their snippets that fill it all up for
27:04 me for my common folder paths so that's
27:06 that's how I got around that but I I can
27:09 I can't I can't ding you for that logic
27:12 I understand
27:15 one one one for Greg well you can't fix
27:19 stupid
27:26 that's a low blow Joe low blow
27:32 lives like a box of chocolates so ok
27:38 Greg that's me sweet no I I could
27:43 understand that logic I can understand
27:44 it
27:45 well Greg that's all I had you got
27:47 anything else
27:49 I do not and do not cuz his way to catch
27:51 up yeah it was good
27:54 hope everyone liked it and Greg where
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